I am always astounded by some of the groups that throw people out for taking too many drugs. Ozzy Osbourne was one (https://wordpress.com/post/fivemilesout.home.blog/1681 ). Guns ‘n’ Roses drummer Stephen Adler was thrown out of the band for his habit, given that this was a band that had narcotics delivered by the truckload that is a hell of an achievement.
The Gunners should not have been special. Read Slash’s autobiography and compare it with Motley Crue’s book. West Coast Hair Metal bands. Children from broken homes and difficult backgrounds. Hanging out on the Sunset Strip living in disgusting accommodation with drug addicts. Lots of groupies and relationships/ marriages with porn stars. All the same for both bands. Yet the Crue are a footnote in music history and the Gunners are not only the greatest American hair metal band ever, teenagers still wear their T-shirts and they are respected by them, despite it being nearly thirty years since the band effectively ended.
In the film Terminator 2: Judgement Day James Cameron wanted to make the point that young John Connor was a badass. So he put him in a Public Enemy T shirt and played Guns ‘n’s Roses’ You Could be Mine over his first scene.
There were originally two bands. Hollywood Rose and LA Guns, there are albums with material from these groups available (The Roots of Guns ‘n’ Roses). The bands merged but egos meant Tracii Guns left to reform the LA Guns and the world had Guns ‘n’ Roses.
I first heard them on the radio and I borrowed their debut album, Appetite For Destruction after one of Neil’s parties (this was pre-Dumper forming and playing at the parties https://wordpress.com/post/fivemilesout.home.blog/384 ). I recorded the singles, but I was not really interested in yet another American hair metal band.
Later that year when they played Castle Donnington there were deaths in the mosh pit and some of the guys were there. We were relieved that they all came home safely, though I did not expect Neil to be in the pit. I also heard about the controversy over the album cover. The first picture is the one that was used after the furore about the second one below.

(Official cover)

(Cover abandoned because of rape imagery)
I listed to the album properly after being on holiday in 1991 (Andy had taken a stereo and it was played) and was surprised at how good it is. Not just the famous tracks like Sweet Child O’ Mine (I once met a woman who was in the video for that) or Paradise City, but tracks about heroin (Mr Brownstone) or groupies (Rocket Queen).
The Gunners were an example of a group who got bigger and bigger whilst they toured their material. There was an EP of acoustic material – G’n’R Lies, which raised controversy with its AIDs references to LGBTQ+ people and people of colour. Not views any sane person would endorse but at that time it just added to their outlaw image.
There was a weird thing in 1992 where artists released two albums on the same day rather than release a double album (Bruce Springsteen did it, though with a better thematic reason). The Gunners released Use Your Illusion I and II. A total of 30 songs and over two and a half hours of music. The standard of this is absolutely awesome, yet it turns out that the recording was riven by disagreement and chaos. Axl prevailed and there were keyboards on tracks like November Rain, whereas Slash wanted to keep the group focused on its metal agenda. Axl got it right in my opinion.
It was always fun to play Get In the Ring on the jukebox at the Norfolk pub in Colchester – “What you pissed off cuz your dad gets more pussy than you? Well fuck you, suck my fucking dick.” Always caused a stir.

At the height of their powers and success it all fell apart. There was one more album of covers, The Spaghetti Incident, and members departed in droves. Slash, Duff McKagan and Izzy Stradlin being the important ones. To be Guns ‘n’ Roses you have to have Axl, Izzy, Duff and Slash.
Axl recruited new members, which meant that the tours were really Axl Rose events with a backing band. There was a rumoured album, Chinese Democracy, that was always on the verge of coming out. Izzy, Slash, Duff McKagan and Matt Sorum formed Velvet Revolver (https://wordpress.com/post/fivemilesout.home.blog/1356 ) and that was much closer to a Guns’ n’ Roses album than Chinese Democracy was when it finally appeared in 2008, 15 years after the last album.
There have been reunions and tours – money talks (as Axl would know from his stint as substitute vocalist for AC/DC). I am not sure that seeing them so long after they were at the peak of their powers is worthwhile. I prefer to remember them as the most dangerous band in the world, the brilliance of their song writing and their aggressive performances. Most hair metal bands were destroyed by grunge, the Gunners reputation stayed intact.
Their real peak lasted 6 years and involved 50 songs. There is an argument for them being the most successful metal band ever in how far they could crossover into the mainstream (definitely more than Iron Maiden, Metallica or Black Sabbath). Absolutely glorious music to play driving on a hot summer day. Except for the fact that both the times my car has genuinely broken down on a journey (dirt from the petrol jamming the carburettor and failure of the fuel pump on a busy 4 lane roundabout in the rush hour) the Gunners have been playing in my car.
Iron Maiden are my favourite metal band but I think there is a massive case for Guns ‘n’ Roses to be considered the greatest metal band ever.
This is not one of their better-known tracks. Like a lot of songs I like it builds to a climax with several speed changes.
Breakdown
Playlist:
- Reckless Life
- Welcome to the Jungle
- Paradise City
- Sweet Child O’ Mine
- Mr Brownstone
- Rocket Queen
- My Michelle
- Think About You
- Used to Love Her
- One in a Million
- Right Next Door to Hell
- Dust ‘n’ Bones
- Live and Let Die
- Back Off Bitch
- Double Talkin’ Jive
- November Rain
- Coma
- Civil War
- Get In the Ring
- Shotgun Blues
- Pretty Tied Up
- Breakdown
- Locomotive (Complicity)
- Estranged
- You Could Be Mine
- You Can’t Put Your Arms Around A Memory





























